Is there enough evidence to convict the President of being a Christian?

 A few days ago I wrote a post about how 20% of Americans believe the President is a Muslim. One of my frequent readers (elogam) said when he was a boy his Sunday School teacher asked them if they were put on trial for being a Christian would there be enough evidence to convict them? I too remember this from childhood. The point was did you truly exemplifying Christ or Christ-like tendencies in your everyday life. The White House says the President does not wear his religion on his sleeve, but I would ask is it anywhere at all on the shirt? We know the president loves basketball. He plays it, he commented on the NCAA brackets, when he was home alone this summer he even invited NBA greats over for food and fun. So no one has to ask does he like basketball. He is enthusiastic about it. So no we don’t want him to be preacher-in-chief as some would suggest. We just want to see some signs every now and then. When you have Billy Graham’s son Franklin declaring he was born of Muslim seed you might need to step up the trips to the local church. The president’s people have said that when he has tried to attend church it is such a circus. So what. Anywhere he goes becomes a circus. It’s a circus when he goes to 5 Guys, but he has not given up burgers, it’s a circus when he takes the girls for ice cream, but he still does it. So go to church Mr. President. The people can stand it, and he needs to compile some evidence.

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  • Peter  On August 21, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    I couldn’t disagree more with the suggestion that the President, or anyone, for that matter, needs to somehow “prove” his faith. How absurd. Will he also have to demonstrate his firm belief in Santa Claus, Superman, or other popular fictional characters?

    Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish…It matters not. All different versions of the same insanity.

  • musesofamom  On August 21, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    You know Peter in a normal political climate I would agree with you, but this is anything but normal. These false assertions had be discussed, disputed and dismissed but they will not die. So it is true that it is absurd that he is forced to defend his faith that is the America we now live in.

  • exeal  On August 21, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    According to The Pew Research Center, 18% think Obama is Muslim and 43% don’t know what his religion is…. Only 34% think that he is a Christian.

    Just a few examples of why people may think Obama is Muslim:
    **His father was Muslim.
    **His stepfather was Muslim.
    **He attended a Muslim school for several years while living in Indonesia.
    **His first TV interview as president was with the Arabic cable TV network Al-Arabiya.
    **He stated last year during a speech in Turkey “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation”.
    **He said to a French interviewer, also last year, “if you actually took the number of Muslims Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”
    **He chose not to have the National Day of Prayer service in the White House. But….
    **He chose to host a Ramadan celebration in the White House.

    I think people have the impression that Obama appears to be more comfortable with the Muslim world. In March 2009 48% thought he was Christian, not it’s down to 34%. In March 2009 only 11% thought he was Muslim, now that number has climbed to 18%. As time passes more and more people are assuming he is Muslim.

    I’m sure that Obama will now try to change that image. But if he’s not careful his efforts will just look like a convenient photo-op….. Just like his family’s trip to the Gulf for a 27 hour photo-op/vacation this month.

  • Mo Rage  On August 21, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Bullshit. In plain English, ma’am–bullshit.

    And shame on you.

    What part of “separation of church and state” do you not get?
    The whole thing?

    Don’t you see that all these supposedly religious people are all out there doing their best to “out-relgious” and out-do the next guy? Where does this all stop? At what point do we decide that our president is “religious enough for us? And who decides that? Pat Robertson? You? Me?

    No, bullshit–I say it again. This president is absolutely right about how religious and Christian he is. It’s none of your business–nor mine nor anyone else’s whether or how much he prays and “how religious” he is.

    Isn’t it in the Bible that we are to go to a closet or some quiet place to pray? You know it is.

    We didn’t vote him in office to be our religioius leader. He needs to lead us in enough directions as it is.

    Shame on you. Take this back.

    Mo Rage
    the blog

    • elogam  On August 23, 2010 at 1:36 am

      Mo Rage, this has NOTHING to do with the “Separation of Church and State”. (Funny, can’t seem to find those words in my copy of the US Constitution. I’ll check again later….) Nobody is asking for him to pass any particular religious test–which IS prohibited in the Constitution. We are not looking for him to be the religious leader of the nation. Instead, this has everything to do with his credibility. He claims to be a Christian. The VAST MAJORITY of people living in this country are people of faith. They believe that his walk and his talk should match. There needs to be substance to his position. People criticized him for taking so long to visit the Gulf after the oil spill. I believe he cared about those people, but he needed to DEMONSTRATE it. I believe he was “frustrated” with BP for how they were handling the crisis, but he had to let loose a few mild expletives for his liberal base to DEMONSTRATE it. Right now there is very little evidence on display for the electorate. If they doubt, they will get the impression he hoodwinked them in 2008 and will vote accordingly.

  • musesofamom  On August 21, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Well Mo Rage, I am not going to take this back and it is your right to disagree with me which you do. Throughout the campaign Obama and his team were masters of communication. their website stop the smears was designed to combat these rumors. I am not asking him to be a Bible thumper but I stand by my suggestion that he go to church. Christians do fellowship with other christians at church and that is not a bad thing. I am not ashame of this post I state my opinion and and I encourage healthy debate.

  • Peter  On August 22, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    My issue is with “faith” and religion as an outdated institution that causes much more harm than good to begin with. It amazes me that we claim, as a people, to be so advanced, but yet a vast majority of the population continues to place such importance on a work of science fiction written hundreds of years ago.

    • elogam  On August 23, 2010 at 1:19 am

      Peter, you’re missing the point. The issue isn’t the veracity of religion. That is a great topic for another time, and I’d welcome that debate. Obviously are not religious. That’s your choice. That puts you in the minority in America, and in fact, the world. Out of 6 billion people, 1 billion are Muslim. You don’t have to share their faith to know that it is a powerful influence. I do not share the Hindu faith but I respect it. It is a powerful influence in the lives of an entire subcontinent. People do good in the name of religion. You don’t have to share that belief, but you should respect it. There is a “Southern Methodist University” but not a “Southern Atheist University”. There are hospitals and charities established for various religious beliefs. I’ve never heard of “Atheist Memorial Hospital”.

      So how does this tie in to the President? He claims to be a Christian. His walk and his talk must support that in a nation where the vast majority are people of faith. It goes to credibility. If someone was an atheist or agnostic, yet attended a church, mosque or synagogue and prayed before each meal you would question their assertion. Mr. Obama can mix in a church visit or two; it won’t kill him.

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