California woman Denise Helms says on Facebook she hopes the president is assasinated…is this a crime?

I read the linked story and watched the video tape and I must say the behavior of Denise Helms is disturbing. She expressed her sentiments on Facebook and has since been fired from her job. She wrote that she hopes the president is assasinated during his second term. She also referred to him as a the n-word. I can understand people being unhappy because Mitt Romney did not win but I can not understand helms cavalier attitude when asked about her assasination comment. Read the linked story and share your thoughts.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/denise-helms-california-woman-hopes-obama-is-assassinated_n_2104184.html

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  • Docile Jim Brady – Columbus OH 43209  On November 10, 2012 at 3:28 am

    It is not a threat , albeit such a statement is less than wise .
    USA does not have thought crimes .

    … Helms wrote on her Facebook Tuesday night. “Maybe he will get assassinated this term.”
    ▲ The above is a speculative prediction and an expression of disdain ▲

    ” … I’m not saying like I would go do that or anything like that, by any means, but if it was to happen, I don’t think I’d care one bit.”
    ▲ The above is a denial that she would in any way be involved in assassination. ▲
    ▲ The above is an expression of indifference to the death of another .▲

  • Andrew Pang  On November 10, 2012 at 8:05 am

    Yes it is indeed a crime per US Code Title 18 Section 871: “Whoever knowingly and willfully..threat[ens] to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States…or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President…shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.”

    • Docile Jim Brady – Columbus OH 43209  On November 11, 2012 at 1:31 pm

      Good morning , Mr. Pang .

      Would you be kind enough to furnish a case citation where a speculation of a future event , as in this case , was held as fulfilling the elements of the statute you quote ?

      IMO , she did not THREATEN to take the life of anyone , let alone the POTUS .

  • toosharp  On November 10, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Apparently so, the Secret Service is now investigating. She may not be racist but just found the stupidest way to get attention.

    • Docile Jim Brady – Columbus OH 43209  On November 11, 2012 at 1:34 pm

      Good morning , toosharp .

      IMO , the investigation is a worse case scenario one .

      It is better , in this case , to investigate when it is needed not than to fail to investigate when it is needed .

  • Okey  On November 10, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    THIS ODD-BALL WILL NOT MAKE ME CHANGE MY RESOLVE. SINCE TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 2012, I HAVE RESOLVED TO HOLD AMERICA (THE UNITED STATES) AS THE MOST LIBERAL, ACCOMMODATING, FAIR-MINDED, DEMOCRATIC NATION IN THE WORLD. ANYBODY WHO HAD BEEN FOLLOWING MY COMMENTS ON THIS PLATFORM WOULD NOW NOTICE A SUDDEN CHANGE. BUT THIS CHANGE IS REAL AND IRREVERSIBLE.

    THAT AMERICA, A COUNTRY OF MOSTLY WHITE PEOPLE COULD VOTE A BLACK MAN A FIRST AND SECOND TIME ON THE BASIS OF SHARED INTEREST AND NOT ON RACE OR COLOUR IS A LESSON TO THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN ENVIRONMENTS WHERE THESE MOST CHERISHED AMERICAN VALUES OF HONESTY, FAIRNESS, INCLUSIVENESS, DIVERSITY, REAL DEMOCRACY ARE LACKING.

    DENISE HELMS IS A BOHEMIAN; SHE IS NOT THE FACE OF AMERICA.

  • elogam  On November 12, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    FIrstly, let me be clear that I do not use N****R in my vocabulary; that I feel it’s just as wrong for a black person to use it if it is wrong for a white person to use it. I see that this woman has lost her job at the Cold Stone Creamery where she was a manager. I find it odd that the NAA(L)CP feels the need to inject itself into this. The owner of the store didn’t say this. He (or she) didn’t impose this belief on this woman. If I were the owner I would decline the “opportunity” to have the NAA(L)CP come and give me a lecture on civil rights, while gaining a photo op for themselves.

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